Porn Doesn’t Philosophize
Guest Manifesto: Porn Doesn’t Philosophize
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I take a step back, and look at the dating & relationships industry. Up until recently, it has been dominated by products for women. And now that the same industry is finally building a market around men, I realize that men are falling for the same BS that women continue to fall for. Not to say that it is complete BS, because a lot of the stuff works. However, most of what is marketed and sold in the dating & relationships industry VERY MINORLY improves your chances with the opposite sex.
We all ask the same question: what do women want? And as a result of this very question, we continue to seek answers in the wrong places by turning to products that are marketed to men in the world of seduction. Why is this the wrong thing to do? Because almost all seduction products are built around a philosophy, and when it comes to philosophy, we tend to forget that it isn’t built around fact. Philosophy is nothing more than an educated guess at best, hence, why a very small percentage of men actually see success when they buy a seduction product. How many of you have used a seduction product, whether free or if you paid a price for it, can actually say that you started sleeping with droves of women afterwards?
If I could take a wild guess, I would say that fewer than 10% of men who consult seduction products for advice actually see any real measurable success with them. And that is the fundamental problem with seduction products: no matter what the guru behind the product promises, it is nothing more than a philosophy that may have worked for him, but probably won’t work for most men.
Since that is the case, what should men be turning to for realistic advice on how to sexually attract women? The mainstream female porn industry. Why so? Because the porn industry can’t afford to philosophize and take guesses as to what is going to attract men and women; the porn industry has to make products based on reality. If their products don’t do their job and directly sexually attract their market, then that company will quickly be out of business. However, if a seduction guru promises a certain result, and you don’t achieve it, then they can just say that you’re doing something wrong or that you need to buy another one of their products. In other words, seduction gurus can afford to take you for a ride, but the porn industry can’t.
Let me give you a few examples. A seduction guru can give a woman ten hairstyles that will sexually attract men. If none of those hairstyles work, then something is wrong with the girl and she needs to buy another product. Now let’s look at the mainstream porn industry. They have to go by what men actually want to have sex with: a very fit girl in a skimpy outfit. They aren’t taking any chances, they aren’t guessing, and they aren’t philosophizing; they’re simply going by what is.
Now let’s look on the other side of the coin. A seduction guru can tell men that this line or that line will sexually attract women. If it doesn’t work, then something is wrong with the guy or he needs to buy another product. The porn industry can’t afford that. They know that they can’t just give the men in their porn (usually softcore porn, soap operas, or romance novels) lines or gimmicks to use on women; they know that the guy just has to have great communication skills (that is usually achieved by constantly talking to people of all backgrounds), which is very different than a line or routine. Again, they aren’t taking any chances, they aren’t guessing, and they aren’t philosophizing; they’re simply going by what is.
Knowing this, if you are a guy that is trying to sexually attract women, where should you be getting the bulk of your advice about sexually attracting women? Not gurus, not seduction products, not seminars, and not talk show hosts. If you really want legit advice on how to sexually attract women, then you need to grab a pen and pad, and go directly to the source: somewhere where they can’t afford to take chances or be wrong: the porn industry; it doesn’t philosophize sexual attraction. It simply goes by what is.
GIVE THE PEOPLE WHAT THEY WANT / THE O’JAYS
07/04/2010 at 10:44 am Permalink
Wait, what are you suggesting here? That to learn how to attract women, a guy needs to check out female porn… like Playgirl and shit!?!? I’m not so sure about that one dude.
07/04/2010 at 12:54 pm Permalink
I don’t get it. What’s the main point of this post? We need to watch chick porn now? Read romance novels? I agree, though, that seduction gurus, all that pua “game” shit is just for losers. The G teaches grad level game here: make some $, become somebody, and broads will follow. End of story.
07/04/2010 at 4:26 pm Permalink
Glad I’m not the only one confused by this post. G, you have the potential to be the next Roissy if you focus deeper on your nitch of advising on how to be a baller. You can’t post half-baked stuff on here. The reason even mentally ill kid Roosh has better readership – he’s investing time into his blog. Well, I know you’re a busy man, but if you do smth might as well do it right.
07/04/2010 at 5:28 pm Permalink
Honestly, when I was in college, and wanted to get better with women, I read Zane’s Sex Chronicles I and II. I didn’t turn to game or the seduction community, instead I read a book about random sexual exploits written for women by a woman. It definitely helped my dating and my sex game, no lie.
Didn’t necessarily help my approach game though. That’s the reason I’m practicing “game” or “pick up” now, just to get over my approach anxiety and be comfortable approaching more and anywhere.
I’m trying to take that next step, where I can approach attractive women anywhere and be confident doing it.
07/04/2010 at 5:57 pm Permalink
so study the guys who are in girl porns??
07/04/2010 at 6:03 pm Permalink
I’ve noticed this too. Girls magazine front pages are littered with headlines like ‘how to keep the guy’ and ‘get the guy interested’. The reality is if these girls work out and eat healthier, they’ll improve their chances more than any psychobabble. The PUA movement is also littered with psychobabble. The reality is if these men are healthier, do worthwhile things with their life, and have interesting things to talk about, confidence and the attention of women is the only possible outcome. Have you ever heard a woman fantasize about the guy that came up and ran the ‘the cube’?
07/04/2010 at 10:01 pm Permalink
“The G teaches grad level game here: make some $, become somebody, and broads will follow. End of story.”
That’s how it works.
08/04/2010 at 8:10 am Permalink
I wrote this post coming from a standpoint of a guy who has been involved in the seduction community for quite a few years. If you’re familiar with it then you know that men are always looking for some secret technique and bragging about some new method that will change their lives. Almost none of these guys bother to look at the answers that are right in front of them.
Porn is just a portion of reality. I meant for this post to be read with a broader context in mind: looking at the reality of what attracts women, and not some fantasy mumbo jumbo that some guru made up just to sell more products. regardless of if you like the porn analogy or not, the fact still remains that when porn, or any commercial industry is trying to sell women a sexual product based on traits and characteristics of an ideal man, they base it on reality, and I think that it is a better teacher for men than what a guru says.
12/04/2010 at 1:53 pm Permalink
” If you really want legit advice on how to sexually attract women, then you need to grab a pen and pad, and go directly to the source: … the porn industry” .
So. It sounds like your advice is this: Write a letter addressed to
The Porn Industry: “Dear Porn Industry, please tell me how to attract women.”
Umm … WTF??
Clarity of intended meaning is crucial for communication, but it is quite lacking in the advice part of this blog post.
12/04/2010 at 5:18 pm Permalink
what Assanova says is true, and you guys are so idiotic and trapped in your own world that you don’t even realize it. instead of holding an allegiance to an industry that depends on differentiating itself for men, turn to what females want. and one way to realize this is by watching female porn–and no, this doesn’t make you gay unless you are jacking off to it. otherwise browse through a romance novel. you guys are idiots questioning this advice without bringing up any real criticism.
12/04/2010 at 9:00 pm Permalink
actually after reading roissy things went well
then i hooked up with a french girl and things got better
as soon as i have the money i plan on investing in a custom suit
i guess its up to me from there
13/04/2010 at 2:17 pm Permalink
John,
Do us idiots who are trapped in our own world a favor and tell us what you learned from watching “Fabio Does France”. Cliff notes version please.
13/04/2010 at 9:13 pm Permalink
Franklynne, sarcasm is for the weak. What he is saying is that the mannerisms that you should consider adopting would be better gleaned from women’s porn and romance novels than from men in felt hats. Ways to tease women, knowing when to push them hard, when to be patient and when to pick them up and toss them around without their expecting it can all be picked up from women’s porn. No cliff notes for you kiddo.
14/04/2010 at 1:25 pm Permalink
Didn’t Playgirl go out of business? That tells us something.
And romance novels is to women what porn is to men, its a multimillion dollar industry. That tells us something.
15/04/2010 at 10:02 am Permalink
This bascially says,
give um what they want and tell um what they wanna hear.
and pua guys just make up a bunch of “pyscho-babble” bullshit (90% of the time)
16/04/2010 at 3:44 am Permalink
Solid post. Along these lines, check out Nancy Friday’s classic book “My Secret Garden.”
That shit will revolutionize the way that you view female sexuality. Part of walking freely in the land of women is realizing that women want sex as much (if not more) as you do. This book of female sexual fantasies – written by a woman, for women – will provide you with a glimpse into the deepest, darkest desires of women.
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The point of the OP is that, in order to discern what women really want, you are best off by going right to the source. However, you need to be perceptive enough to SEE the value in this…As our esteemed host would say, “the rest is up to you.”
21/07/2010 at 10:30 pm Permalink
When the author meant we should look to the porn industry on how to attract women, did he mean to check porn for guys by guys or porn for girls by girls? I started watching Zane’s sex chronicles and its a good show so far.
25/05/2012 at 11:01 pm Permalink
When the author meant we should look to the porn industry on how to attract women, did he mean to check porn for guys by guys or porn for girls by girls? I started watching Zane’s sex chronicles and its a good show so far.